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For this issue, I continued my series of check-ins with veteran creative leader Ben James, Crispin's new Chief Creative Officer, on the last day of his first 30 days in the role.

Ben James, Chief Creative Officer, Crispin

Prior to taking on the new CCO position at Crispin, Ben was the Chief Innovation Officer at GALE, and before that held roles as the Head of Creative for the New York Times' T Brand Studio, and Chief Creative Officer and Managing Director of Creative Innovation at JWT New York.

In this conversation, recorded on the literal last day of his first month in the role, we discussed areas such as the printed-screenshot ritual he implemented to help connect with his team, why he's betting that "come by and see us" beats any polished pitch deck as a new-business strategy, and why he believes "relentless reinvention is a feature, not a bug".

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[TOP OF MIND]

“Come By and See Us”

A particular kind of question follows a place like Crispin, and Ben James has clearly heard it in one form or another for years.

It comes from alumni who left and moved on to other things, from clients trying to get a read on where the agency stands now, and from competitors doing the usual industry gossip about who's still standing and who's changed. Whatever the source, it always comes down to the same question: what's actually going on over there?

Most agencies would answer that question with a press release, or a case study, or a well-produced deck walking you through the current thinking.

Ben, however, has decided the answer is simpler than any of that.

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“If someone asks us what's going on at Crispin, we are saying, ‘come by and see us.’

So ‘come by and see us’ is the strategy.

If you're interested in what's going on at Crispin, come by and see us, and we'll invite you in.”

It's a strategy that only works if there's something worth walking into, and this is where the physical space of the Crispin offices starts to come into focus. Crispin's NYC office setup isn't built like a traditional agency floor; in Ben's own words, it's closer to a live media operation.

Crispin’s new NYC office space at One World Trade Center.

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“Our space is set up like a newsroom…so to me it's like a combination of TMZ, Saturday Night Live, and the New York Times…all in one thing.”

His comparison is an interesting way to say a physical environment can be designed so a message moves from idea to output as quickly as the internet does, rather than at the speed a typical creative process is built for.

And it means that when someone does take him up on the invitation, there's an actual working agency to show them, not a polished deck or sizzle reel of past work.

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“When (people) stop by, they can see our social newsroom practice going on.

We can walk them through some of the packaging design that we do…we can create sessions where we really walk through how we're approaching media.

Soon we'll get to show them work we're doing for Samsung. Soon we'll get to show them work we're doing for O'Keeffe's. It's through this that we'll get to show them the work that we do for New Balance.”

The social newsroom, the packaging work, and the client projects in progress are all happening day to day, and Crispin’s invitation is simply to come and experience it from the inside instead of hearing about it secondhand.

Even the smallest version of the invitation carries that same tone. Ben mentioned it can start as casually as an old friend reaching out to say they're in town, and his answer is the same every time: come by and see us.

To me, it feels less like a tactic and more like a genuine standing offer to those truly interested, and at thirty days into the process, it seems to be working, with clients and partners continuing to take him up on it.

Listen to the full podcast episode:

[Volume 1 Issue 2] BEN JAMES: Relentless Reinvention at Crispin

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[Volume 1 Issue 2] BEN JAMES: Relentless Reinvention at Crispin

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[CASE STUDY]

First Thirty Days In a New Role, First Team Ritual from a New Leader

When I connected with Ben on the literal last day of his first month as Chief Creative Officer of Crispin, there was something fitting about speaking with him in that exact window; thirty days being just enough time to have formed a real opinion about a company, but not nearly enough time to have settled into it fully.

When I asked what the first month had actually looked like from the inside, broadly speaking, he described something closer to an apprenticeship than a checklist of “wins”: a deliberate slowing down to understand the people and the work before trying to shape either one.

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“I mean, this is the thirty-day moment of a new leadership role. This is exactly that moment, and what I've been focused on is learning about the people here, learning about the work that we do, learning about the clients that we work with, and then thinking about the best ways to market…the best of what Crispin does.”

What's interesting is that his first real move toward that kind of learning wasn't a listening tour or a string of one-on-ones designed to check a box.

It was something much different, and in its own way, much more revealing about how Ben thinks: he launched an internal exercise called Chop-Up-the-Algorithm, and the whole premise hinged on making something that's usually frictionless - sharing a link - deliberately more manual.

Printed screenshots of social media feeds, studied as part of Chop-Up-the-Algorithm.

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“So I had the idea to have everyone share what’s inspiring them in their own social media and algorithms.

But the way they shared it, we made a little unique in that we asked them to screen grab the things that were most inspiring from their social media and then actually print those out so that we could have a paused discussion about it.

This is not to have something texted as a link, but rather to really look at the architecture of the feed and the architecture of the algorithm and what is it that makes up the things that come at us that inspire us every day.”

No links dropped into a Teams chat. No forwarded posts. Just printed screenshots, physically carried into a room for collective exploration. It became a standing appointment almost immediately, and it's been held for weeks now across multiple offices.

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"So we've done that in the New York office and in our Houston office, where on Thursdays we print out what inspires us from the world, and really from social media, and then take it to the middle of the room and gather around it and have a discussion about what we like."

Screenshots and inspiration from teams at Crispin.

Crispin employees meet for Thursday’s Chop-Up-the-Algorithm.

However, Ben wasn't fully confident anyone would actually show up, either, and he'd braced himself for the eye-rolls before he'd even sent the invitation.

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“I even wrote, you know, so go ahead and eye-roll at this and go ahead and feel about this all you will, but please humor this and give this a chance.”

What happened instead was the kind of thing you can't really engineer; people who weren't even specifically invited to the early sessions started noticing it happening and asking to be let in.

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“There were some people that I had left off the original list that just saw it happening who work on the media side, and they came over and they said, ‘what's going on here? Can we be part of this?’

And we're like, Yes, you are a part of it - get in.

And they keep coming.”

But the moment that tells you the most about how this took root is smaller and more nuanced. One day, in Ben’s third week into the job, someone showed up on the wrong day entirely - a Tuesday, printed screenshots in hand - and found the space empty.

Scenes from Chop-Up-the-Algorithm sessions at Crispin.

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“There was somebody that showed up last Tuesday at 10 am thinking we're also doing it on Tuesdays already.

And then she was saying to the others, ‘I came on Tuesday, and nobody seemed ready to do it, so I printed…and I left my stuff.’

And I said…well, it's good news. I looked at your stuff on Wednesday because it was sitting here in this printed pile, and I really like it…let's talk about it.

But then the team said, Hey, can we start doing this on Tuesdays too?

Throughout his first month, what began as Ben’s fastest way to understand thirty+ people across multiple cities has quietly become something more durable: an archive, growing one Thursday at a time, that's changing how the agency studies its own industry.

“The wall” of inspiration at Crispin’s NYC office.

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“Through that exercise, we know how to study what really works in social media.

We really study the way (it looks) frame by frame…and (how it) really breaks down.

We look at what is the most impactful, and why is it coming through to one particular person.”

There's a second effect here that he didn't originally set out to create, and it might end up being the more important one. When a team shares the same links back and forth, their feeds tend to drift toward each other over time. Everyone slowly ends up fed the same algorithmic diet, mistaking convergence for alignment. This new ritual has done the opposite.

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“Often when I've been in organizations where we share a lot of the same information just through the links that we get, our algorithms start to influence each other, and we start to drift into being the same community.

Through this (exercise), we've managed to continue to keep the diversity of thought that we have available to us…each person having their own media experience.”

Printed screenshots

And it's already outgrowing the room it started in. Outside collaborators have caught glimpses of the sessions and asked to come back, and Ben is now shaping a version of it for Crispin’s own clients.

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“We've had collaborators come through who are partners in production companies…and they've caught glimpses of it, and they've asked to come back and be part of it.”

By the end of our one-month milestone check-in, Ben talked about what the exercise had actually been training the team to do all along, and it wasn't really about algorithms at all.

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“I think a natural byproduct of chopping up the algorithm is actually a media literacy conversation.

We ask ourselves as that happens, okay, why is this influencing us?

And why does this color palette influence us?

Why does this particular context influence us?

Why do I believe this influencer or thought leader in this particular context?”

In the end, a newly implemented team ritual, built to help a new leader learn about his people, has quickly become a new way Crispin thinks about media itself: one printed screenshot at a time.

Listen to the full podcast episode:

[Volume 1 Issue 2] BEN JAMES: Relentless Reinvention at Crispin

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[Volume 1 Issue 2] BEN JAMES: Relentless Reinvention at Crispin

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[TAKEAWAYS & INSIGHTS]

Relentless Reinvention Is a Feature, Not a Bug

Toward the end of our conversation, after Ben had walked us through a month's worth of rituals and strategies and physical spaces designed with real intention, he mentioned something that felt different, like a governing belief more than anything else; as if it was underneath everything else he talked about up to that point.

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“And that's (the point), it's (asking) what technology do we have available to us?

What technology do we have available to us to make what we need to make?

And then (we) make a process here where relentless reinvention is a feature, not a bug.

It's really the way we were built.

It's what our brand philosophy is.

And it's very, very helpful for clients and business, we think, for where the world is really going in the media space.

Crispin - since 1965.

It's interesting to hear this from a veteran leader a month into a new role, because most leaders in new positions are still trying to build stability. But Ben seems to be doing the opposite, and he explains why that's less contradictory than it sounds.

Earlier in the conversation, almost as an aside, he'd mentioned an old thought experiment he'd found himself returning to that weekend.

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“There's a Greek mythology (story) I was looking up called The Ship of Theseus recently. It's a good branding idea too; it's about organizational change.

But the Ship of Theseus, it was a boat that the people held on to and preserved…because it was such a great boat (for) what they needed to get done.

But over time they had to switch out the boards and the materials until…they completely changed the boat itself.

And I was thinking about it this weekend, and I was going, that's what the modern media environment is.

It's not just an organizational metaphor or a brand metaphor. That's going on in media.

I believe, and have seen, that the media environment is really changing every 18 months or so.”

With that insight in mind, the metaphor reframes reinvention as continuity rather than instability. The boat - whether the media industry or Crispin itself - is still the boat, even after every plank has been replaced, because what's actually being preserved isn't the material, but the intent behind it.

Ben thinks Crispin's business works in the same way, and that the only thing that has to stay unchanged- the ability to stay ready for change- is what the agency is actually chasing.

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“…how you're actually prepared for that (recurring change), and what you have to do…it only adjusts in what kind of expressions you have to put out there.

So our method is to think about this very, very, very simple thing, which is:

Where is the most growth possible for a client business…and what is the most creative thing we can do in that space to make as much breakthrough happen as possible?”

He also drew a distinction to explain why reinvention doesn't feel like chaos to him. He's thought a lot, he said, about the difference between making something beautiful and making something that actually works for a business.

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“(I’ve) thought very deeply over the last few months about how this is a commercial art, not a high art.

I think we can be high art about commercial art, and be very artistic when we're trying to go for commercial means.

But this is definitely a commercial art.

The best (work), it was about being very inventive about a particular moment or a way to get the message to the world.

And invention is what's needed very, very much.”

The idea that their work is commercial art, not high art, keeps the reinvention disciplined instead of scattered. The craft matters, of course, but it's always in service of a specific moment for a specific client business, not in service of the work existing on its own terms. And as it turns out, that’s exactly the mindset a shrinking budget demands.

Ben described the same philosophy already being tested in real terms, as Crispin looks ahead to leaner client scopes.

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“We're digging into workflow right now.

We're really looking at, okay, how do we take the idea of inventiveness and then think about…if the budget is cut in half or to a fraction of what it was, how are we going to be very inventive in that moment to accomplish what we need to do?”

Thirty days in, the throughline underneath every team ritual and strategy Ben talked about wasn’t a fixed plan for what Crispin will look like next, but a fixed belief about what it means to keep changing on purpose in 2026.

See ya next time.

-Vince 🪩

[EPISODE CLIPS]

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